I’ve already written about my favorite part of Kate Neville’s paper at Mythmoot VI, but it has a second-favorite part, too. Warning: Contains Star Wars Episode V spoilers.
Tolkien’s dragons started out as a mythological counterpart to tanks and machine guns. They didn’t lie because they were machines. Kate tracks down the dragons available to JRRT in his youth, who also didn’t lie. In William Morris’s Volsung Saga, Fafnir is all brute strength, no guile. But as Middle-earth evolved, Tolkien’s dragons picked up a psychological dimension as well as physical power. If we look at what Glaurung says to Turin, for example, the word the narrator uses repeatedly is “lie”. That’s not exactly right, though. All of it would pass a fact-check at the Newspaper of Record. It’s much more subtle than mere lies.
Deception, maybe. Definition 2a in the OED for “deceive” is “To cause to believe what is false; to mislead as to a matter of fact, lead into error, impose upon, delude, ‘take in’.” This is how I see what’s going on with Glaurung, and later when Smaug talks to Bilbo. Saruman is good at it, too. Kate says he’s “dragon-hearted”.
You know who flat-out lies? Gandalf, when we first meet him at the beginning of The Hobbit. Bilbo is not a burglar, nor any kind of adventure. It’s diametrically different from the dragons, though. Dragons say things that are almost true, so you believe that little twist at the end. Kate points out that nobody believes Gandalf when he says Bilbo is a burglar. And Gandalf is OK with that. He’s making a prophecy with an incorrect verb tense, more than stating a fact about the world. Whether anyone is actually misled by the lie makes the difference between a good character and an evil one.
Off on a tangent from the paper, now. You know who else flat-out lies to the hero of his story? Obi-Wan Kenobi. [1] That behavior always seemed wrong for the character and made me not trust him an inch, even though it’s effortless to forgive Gandalf for a similar untruth. Now that I’ve heard this paper, I see why I had that reaction. The lies from ostensibly trustworthy elder figures in Star Wars are intended to be believed, so they’re not acting like good guys do. But they don’t have any of the subtle psychological manipulation that dragons use to make the deception interesting. And the whole plot turns on those lies. Some mentor the Jedi turned out to be.
[1] Confession: I don’t really like Star Wars. I suspect that its staggering popularity comes from its shallowness. Its fans supply depth from their own imaginations. At the end of the process, the fans have awesome special effects to go with whatever they thought up on their own. It’s like a “call for fanfic.” For me, though, the constant lies from the Jedi ruin the process. Darth Vader looks like a paragon of good management practice, next to them.
tom hillman
The heart of the lie is the intent to deceive, whether the liar is using knowingly statements to do so or not. Or so I would argue.
But I see your point.
Joe
This is one of those definitions I’ve had to expand after experiencing social media. For example, the guy who started the outrage over a black actor playing the Little Mermaid didn’t necessarily want to deceive anyone. He lied to start a big argument without anyone changing their preconceptions. Kind of like what Wormtongue accused Gandalf of, now that I think of it.
tom hillman
Perhaps we should include ‘malice’ along with the ‘intent to deceive’. On the other hand, I do think he intended deceit.
Joe
I think you’re right about malice, even though it lets Obi-Wan off the hook.
tom hillman
either malice, or intent to deceive, or both.
tom hillman
also, I would argue that if you are conveying false information unknowingly you are not lying. You’re just wrong.
Joe
Another staple of social media!
tom hillman
that’s also life
Kate Neville
Per your comment about your impression of Star Wars: I am, among other things, a fan of Greta Garbo. Years ago I read an article about the filming of Queen Christina. The final scene was of the Queen at the prow of her ship, escorting her dead lover back home. During the early takes, Garbo acted her heart out, trying to express in her face everything she felt about the man she had loved. The director then told her to empty her mind and think of nothing at all. He just wanted her beautiful face as a blank canvas. And he was right; audiences saw in her face whatever they wanted to see: pain, regret, love, determination, power. Films are, after all, moving ‘pictures.’ 1977 Star Wars was the medium surpassing the message. [Plus Alec Guinness who makes all things better.]
Joe
I know, right? Guinness was so good that some of us took years to say, “hey, wait a minute…”